| FIRE!
FIRE! FIRE! to translate a line from
their early 'Incubus Sucubus' single, is
what a first impression of X-Mal
Deutschland is full of. When I saw them
at the Venue last November they were
burning with challenge, passion and
magic. The songs were hard and powerful,
raging flames of emotion. Their presence
radiated a strange, indefinable charisma
which acted as a kind of shock invite to
an alluring world of darkness and danger.
The
effect was haunting. A physical, rhythmic
flirtation with the colossal that
captured a raw energy... a resonance
that throbbed and shuddered with an
acute, refreshing sense of being
alive.
'Fetisch',
the LP, harnessed enough of that
resonance to be vital vinyl one of
the few records that actually has some
semblance of purpose, meaning and belonging
to the present day.
The
'mystery' which others have referred to
in writing about them stretches further
than the simple exotica of their being
foreign. Preparing to meet and
interview them, a queasy uncertain
feeling grows in the stomach. Some
'mysteries' are best left unsolved and
there is a temptation to continue the
savouring of the subject from a safe
distance. But it is that allure
again, that having to know which
draws one on.
Cognisant
of the fury in their music, you could
expect X-Mal Deutschland to be brutish
individuals, prone to charging through
doorways brandishing axes and
communicating only through a code of
fierce screams.
But
breath easy. X-Mal Deutschland are almost
disappointingly pleasant. Their
conversation is coated with a level of
self-criticism that is oddly close to
humility and they drip with an honestly
untainted by delusions of, or allusions
to, grandeur.
For a
relatively unknown band X-Mal Deutschland
have been attracting staggering numbers
of people (not to mention numbers of
staggering people) to their recent gigs
here. How do they account for this?
Anja:
"Maybe it is just because we are a
German band and we have been successful
in the sense that people have written
about us so people come to see what we
are like."
Fiona:
"There is a feeling behind the whole
thing that sort of gets transmitted from
the stage to the audience. I hope the
people that come especially to see us
have come for that."
Can you
define this feeling?
Fiona:
"It changes and changes. When we're
on stage it's usually, well, the
aggression and then, of course, there are
all the feelings in the songs. So it's
the emotion expressed in the songs plus
aggression."
Anja:
"But that's not all. I mean, it's
really hard to talk about the feeling
between the band and the audience. The
Ace gig was the first one since the last
one in London. So a lot of people who
haven't seen us before are just curious
because we don't play that often."
Fiona:
"Nobody's really given us an
analysis of a concert. People say they
like it or they didn't like it but they
never say why."
But I'm
interested in why you think
people go. Do you think they pick up and
respond to a feeling which is there?
Anja:
"Maybe. First of all they can't
understand the lyrics so they have to
feel the music or the whole thing.
Normally you can see a band and
understand the lyrics and then decide
whether you like, them or not. When
people come to see us it is completely
different. They come to see the whole
thing, not only to listen to the lyrics
they have to hear the vocals like
an instrument."
What
kind of effect do you want to have on an
audience? Inspiring?
Entertaining?
Fiona:
"Not really just to entertain, it's
neither/nor."
Anja:
"We do only a few gigs, we never
play in Germany for example, so it is
hard to say what we want. Firstly we make
music for ourselves and the people who
really like it."
Fiona:
"But it all starts off with us. With
a new song in the rehearsal room it's do we
like it or do we not like it. If the
audience likes it as well then okay but
it starts off with us.
Anja:
"It's great when people do like it.
At the Ace when we came onstage everybody
was clapping. We were really surprised,
we didn't expect that, and very
nervous."
Can you
say where your initial motivation comes
from?
Fiona:
':'Us. It's just the kind of music we
like."
Anja:
"How we feel. The music we do is how
we feel and how we are."
Is the
music a way of expressing anger or
frustration or what?
Anja:
"No, not really frustration but
everything. Lots of feelings, fortune and
sadness. You can put anything into a
song."
Manuela
(Rickers): "It is not that we first
think about it then do a song. You are
just in a mood and something comes out of
that."
Anja:
"We don't go into the rehearsal room
thinking we have to do a new song because
we can't do that, it's
impossible. Sometimes we try for weeks,
going there everyday, for us it is not
easy to make new songs in a very short
time.
"We
take a long time because we want to make
songs that we can sing after two years. I
hate lyrics that maybe I can only sing
for maybe two months and then really hate
them. All the songs we have done I think
we can play in three years."
Fiona:
"Sometimes it'll only take a couple
of days or a couple of hours even, for a
new song to come out. It all depends on
how you feel."
Do you
think 'Fetisch' is a lasting document,
containing songs that won't become dated?
Fiona:
"Possibly, although we might
personally get fed up with them and not
want to play them."
But will
the LP sound as strong in five years?
Fiona:
"I would hope so because that would
mean we've captured some of our feeling
on the LP. And that is timeless, it's a
feeling that will always be there."
Anja:
"But the songs change just in
playing live."
Fiona:
"Because we change. Our interests
change."
I've
heard people call you Teutonic. That
seems to get slung at every German band,
however different, that plays here. It's
not always intended in a derogatory
manner but it is a common form of
thoughtless racial stereotyping implying,
maybe, a deliberate preciseness and a
cold efficiency.
Anja:
"Really!?"
Fiona:
"'Oh Christ. I'd say the
opposite."
Anja:
"That's the first time I've heard
that. Nobody has said that to us
before."
They say
it to me all the time, it's very common.
All part of the mentality that considers
pop music to be the last bastion of the
British Empire.
Manuela
(Rickers): "In comparison with other
German bands we are not all that
Teutonic. Kraftwerk for example. .
."
Fiona:
"I would call Kraftwerk Teutonic.
They go over the top with their image,
very, very, precise with everything. It's
the typical prejudice, like saying Scots
are mean.
Anja:
"It makes me really angry because
these people are so stupid (hisses). . .
if you go to see a band then you go to
see them. I think it is stupid if you
start saying 'this is a typical Scottish
band or this is a typical English band'.
It is very narrow minded."
What was
the thinking behind the release of the
12-inch remixed version of 'Qual' (an LP
cut that gets a lengthened treatment,
delving into contrasting moods and
textures, dominated by percussion
passages)?
Manuela
(Zwingman): "Just to have a song
produced in a different way."
Fiona:
"Ivo (of 4AD) really wanted to do a
12-inch of 'Qual' although we liked all
the songs on the LP."
Manuela
(Zwingman): "It's successful, it is
a good record to dance to. It's wild and
noisy and powerful. . . it's not
soft."
Anja:
"We did it together with Ivo and it
was really strange because we'd never
done anything like that before. But we
just thought, why not? You have to do
different things and try things out. The
B-side is quite different the
people who buy the record will see there
is a completely different side."
Do you
think you are playing overtly 80s music?
Anja:
"I think so, yeah. In the way we use
instruments and everything."
Some
records obviously dredge the past while
others are too self-consciously 'modern'
to strike any meaningful chord in the
listener.
Fiona:
"Well, if you put it like that, then
we are definitely 80s music!"
How
would you determine whether or not you
were being successful?
Anja:
"I don't understand bands who say
they're fantastic and everyone will like
them. None of us could say that because
we all really hate those bands so
much."
What
level would you like to reach,
commercially speaking?
Manuela
(Zwingman): "It is okay to reach
people with the music that we want to
play but we wouldn't go and make a
specially commercial record to reach more
people it's not what we want, we
want to make just the music that we
like."
Anja:
"At the moment, especially in
Germany, we are an underground band. For
me, I would really like X-Mal Deutschland
to be a popular underground band. There
are quite a lot of popular underground
bands in England and that's the way to do
it, to be with an indie label is great. A
popular underground band needn't be on an
indie label but that's what we want, to
be a popular underground band and
be on an indie label."
Manuela
(Rickers): "We could have gone to a
major label in Germany when Zick Zack
didn't have any money left but we didn't
want that so instead we came to
England."
What do
you think people have to gain from
listening to X-Mal Deutschland?
Fiona:
"They have to decide that for
themselves."
Anja:
"They have to enjoy it really. Or
hate it."
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