| TIMOTHY
LEARY became internationally-known in the
1960s as the high priest of
LSD, preaching the benefits of altered
states and inner exploration to mankind.
The infamy that befell him overshadowed
his previous acclaim as one of the
USs most innovative psychologists,
writer of academically applauded texts,
and seeker of new methods in
psychotherapy. It
was this work that led Leary to Harvard
in 1960 and experiments with psilocybin
(the active ingredient of
magic mushrooms) and later
the then still legal LSD. Learys
investigations unwittingly paralleled
experiments by the CIA in a similar field
but with a less altruistic intent.
Harvard was soon to be 'seething
with drug consciousness' and Leary,
by the middle of the decade, a notorious
figure and author of the famous phrase 'turn
on, tune in, drop out'. This he later
ameded, taking into the account the size
and strength of the younger generation,
to 'turn on, tune in, take over'.
Imprisoned for the
possession of a modest half-ounce of
marijuana, the man escaped to Europe but
was eventually 'informally extradited'
back the US to complete his sentence.
Now 63, Leary is,
ironically perhaps, among the most
highly-paid performers on the lecture
circuit. The debates on politics and
morality between himself and G Gordon
Liddy (ex-lawyer, ex-FBI special agent,
man behind the Watergate break-in)
provides the basis for Return
Engagement, a film by Alan Rudolph
chronicling eight days in the lives of
the pair. Meanwhile, Learys
autobiography, Flashbacks, is
published next month.
To tie-in with both film
release and book publication, Leary was
due in London this week. Alas, he was
denied entry to the UK on ground of being
'a threat to public order'.
"I plead guilty to
that!", asserts the gobbler of some
5000 LSD doses when I finally make verbal
contact over a remarkably clear phone
link (I cant but wonder who else
might be listening) to his Hollywood
home.
Far from being the
burned-out drug casualty that many
assume, Leary in conversation is lucid,
enthusiastic and sprightly of wit. He
continues:
"I do aim to stir up
disrespect for that kind of police state
bureaucracy. I continually argue for the
rights of the individual over the power
of the state. The British government are,
therefore, presumably showing themselves
to be afraid of these rights."
In Return Engagement,
Leary finishes up almost seeming to have
something in common with the ostensibly
right-wing Liddy: a couple of oddballs
turning their pasts into money, enjoying
the publicity and showbiz razzamatazz.
The basic ideological differences
dont stand in the way of
entertainment, leaving the two as
slightly clown-like figures.
"The editing
shallowed out the very profound
differences. Liddy looks to the past
while Im very much looking to the
future and the evolution of
intelligence."
In the film, youre
seen grinning at youths in an amusement
arcade and expounding the virtues of
video games.
"My interest is not
with video games per se but with
the use of video educationally. For
example, Ive always held that
its much better to teach five to
ten year olds chemistry using screens
that can show electrons darting about
rather than just having a description of
that on paper.
"There are many
different levels of intelligence but it
is really about understanding the
equipment that you have and the outside
reality, so that you can harmonise and
fuse the two to increase knowledge. The
key is to evolve, change and develop an
understanding of evolution."
And theres a lot of
resistance to this..?
"Yes. I stand for
change (in Flashbacks, Leary
describes himself as 'a genetically
determined change agent'. Aldous
Huxley told him: 'Be a cheerleader for
evolution') and bureaucracies of both
left and right are very much opposed to
that."
During the public question
and answer section of Return
Engagement, there is a Vietnam
veteran with plastic eyes and two hundred
pellets lodges in his skull. He cites:
followers of Timothy Leary as
being responsible, they took LSD,
hallucinated and began firing their
guns... its the only part of the
film where Leary seems lost for words.
"That man just made a
very basic appeal to the emotions. It was
not possible for me to have rational
discourse with him. I felt very sad for
him and there was no way that I could act
as a smart-arse.
"I felt great deal of
compassion for him, he was probably
mentally disturbed but he was very good
example of a civilisation that operates
on very primitive emotions of good versus
evil. What actually caused the harm to
him was guns and not drugs, and I very
much favour strong control of guns.
Liddy, meanwhile, was arguing the
opposite.
Do you still take drugs?
"Yes."
LSD?
"On special
occasions. Weddings, birthdays,
etc."
What's your view of
Britain?
"There are pressing
problems and lack of confidence. Britain
is in great danger of returning to the
police state that it used to be. As
evidenced by the Falklands and, of
course, not letting me in. Britain should
invest in computer projects: artificial
intelligence or the Knowledge Industry as
it has become known."
What are your views on the
shooting down of the South Korean
airliner?
"Im probably
the greatest enemy of the Soviet Union
and the monstrous gangster bureaucracy
they have there. But Im ashamed as
a patriotic American that there has been
no denial from the US government that
surveillance equipment is used aboard
civil aircraft.
"Ive found
Reagans reaction disgracefully
provocative. Hes been instrumental
in the development of a war-like
situation, hes exploited the
incident for his own ends. The Cold War
is heating up and Reagan is
responsible."
Finally, whatever happened
to the LSD movie that Cary Grant was
getting excited about in 1962 (documented
in Flashbacks)?
"Ha ha," giggles
the Doctor, "its still waiting
to be made."
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